I love the fit of these. This is the first pair of non-skinny jeans I've bought since I was a kid. I thought they wouldn't flatter my shape (which is curvy with a small frame), but they actually really do I think! The sizing is strange because I'm normally a size ~4 in ON jeans (skinny jeans like R...ockstar), but I needed a 10 in these. I could have probably gone with an 8 but I wanted them extra comfy. I'd still suggest sizing up from your skinny jeans size - there's less stretch than usual. The fit is nice for me because I have big hips, thighs and butt with a somewhat smaller waist ratio. They fit looser in the thighs but hug the waist, while still being comfortable on the tummy, so it works for me. I thought that the pair I bought might have been a returned pair because the rips seemed extra ripped (you know when you accidentally step in the hole instead of the pant leg?), but now that I look at the picture again it seems like it was on purpose. They do stretch out in the waist after wearing, like all ON jeans (in my experience), but shrink back down after drying.